I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? Break it in!!! The problem is when the slide slams forward. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. Oh its not a logical move. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Sorry about that. You can post now and register later. All Rights Reserved. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Display as a link instead, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. You can post now and register later. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Haha. Im a little ahead of you on this path. Nick29 Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. Powered by Invision Community. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. What does the extractor look like? How are you sending the slide forward? To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. I noticed this after a cleaning. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Just an excuse to try something new. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Just got a new spring today. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Is this RSA going to $hit already? I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. What Argyle said sounds about right. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. Haha.). Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. No need to clean, just add lube. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. It's working fine now. I had this with my first gen P80. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. They dont always fit perfectly right away. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Display as a link instead, Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Pasted as rich text. Pasted as rich text. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Just curious as to what Glock said. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. Your previous content has been restored. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. This is only going to be used at the range. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Haha). first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. Haha. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Something he has seen in the field. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Any update on this? The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. JavaScript is disabled. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. Lord, make me fast and accurate. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. JavaScript is disabled. I will look into it. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Powered by Invision Community. Thank you! Shoot the crap out of it. Upload or insert images from URL. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. I am making sure not to ease it forward. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." Is this normal with these mods? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Is this RSA going to $hit already? I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. Is this how it supposed to function? Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. Upload or insert images from URL. 20+ is for 10mm. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. JavaScript is disabled. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. Will get some pics next time at the range. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. Thanks for the info. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. It won't load a round. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. Yes i am. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Oh, it was like filing. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. check the recoil spring. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. UPDATE! Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. Does anyone have any suggestions? I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. I couldnt be happier. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? You cannot paste images directly. Like polishing amounts? 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