I will probably get a Nikita's gift in the ground spring 2018. Watch the fruit color change, a ripe persimmon will be purplish (this is when they fall to the ground and usually break open) and a just right for picking color is when they go orange with a tinge of the purple color starting to show up. The vine crops do need to be controlled or else they will take over the world and the Cornelian Cherries take forever to fruit but that's about all the work you're gonna do to grow them. Similar ripening habit as Rosseyanka, fall into winter, but unlike Rosseyanka, Nikita's Gift taste more like Asian persimmon. Need a lot of trees? the fall color is beautiful even without leaves. it immediately started losing leaves and is basically dead at this point. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree is as vigorous as the American Persimmon and as large as the Asian. Check out our nikita's gift persimmon tree selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. Ive been going out at night to check the trees and hand pick. This exciting new Persimmon hybrid Nikita's Gift is a cross between an American Persimmon variety (virginiana) and the Japanese Persimmon variety (kaki) and it gives us a wonderful fruit tree that is hardy to Zone 5. Our varieties are self-fertile and hardy to USDA Zone 5. However, Nikitas Gift is a hybrid of Asian and American species, developed and selected in Ukraine, so I thought, who knows? this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including Hello , can anyone recommend a nursery where I can buy a Nikitas, Location: Western WA (Zone 8B - temperate maritime), Another western WA nursery that has N Gift is Raintree nursery. Here are some pictures of the damage: You can see the little Saijo in the background on this one. "There are some who can live without wild things, and some who cannot." I'm not sure if that made the riper ones mushy or not but the first ones went from hard to mushy over night. Those last two are in that first stage, of just surviving and putting down roots, and might shoot up next year if nature allows. If not I could stick in with the other stuff going out next week. $29.99 - $135.00 Diospyrus kaki x virginiana 'Nikita's Gift' As hardy as the American persimmon and as large as the Asian, Nikita's large crops of 2-1/2 inch, flattish, red-orange fruit are certainly gifts. Probably the most widely planted fruit tree in the world, Persimmons are found throughout Asia in almost every yard and orchard. I didn't think it had very much flavor compared to the rich flavor and texture of Prairie fruit. Does height=fruit? and not crossed any further(like your seeds you started). Zones 6-9. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon grows 10-12 ft. in height, is self-fertile and hardy to minus 10 F. If you like American Persimmons with bigger fruits and a nice taste are Prok and Yates. The tree grows as a multi-trunked or single-stemmed deciduous tree to 25 feet high and wide. My friend planted both Prok and Yates. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree $44.99 Scarlet Sentinel Columnar Apple $59.99 Greensleeves Apple $49.99 Flavortop Nectarine $59.99 Reine de Mirabelle European Plum $32.99 Shenandoah Paw Paw $32.99 Raintree Brunswick Fig $59.99 Seuri Asian Pear $59.99 Hendre Huffcapp European Perry Pear $30.99 Nordland Fig $44.99 Golden Treat Urban Columnar Apple so being put in a box for a few days tends to upset her. The author is interested in cold-hardy persimmons. https://growingfruit.org/t/persimmonresource/36558, Ploidy Level in American Persimmon (Diospyros virginiana) Cultivars, https://journals.ashs.org/hortsci/view/journals/hortsci/55/1/article-p4.xml, https://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/59958.pdf. Mein Benutzererlebnis mit Cookies anpassen, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Growing Mangoes in northern California - My Mango Tree in Zone 10A. Bryant RedHawk wrote:Watch the fruit color change, a ripe persimmon will be purplish (this is when they fall to the ground and usually break open) and a just right for picking color is when they go orange with a tinge of the purple color starting to show up. that is about the height where my three others started bearing. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Persimmons Nikita's Gift vs. Saijo and Yates in Pacific NW. Find out more at http://www.tytyga.com/product/Nikita%27s+Gift+Persimmon+Tree Browse more videos Playing next 2:23 Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree 2:27 Nakita's Gift Persimmon Tree I agree with the suggestion to check out hybrids. I bought a Nikitas gift last year in the spring it never leafed out but the branches still bent so protected it in case it would this year this spring the branches broke when bent. it died RIP..6A. And for a great price! @Vincent_8B, nice photo with the pawpaws. I also like Early Golden and Ruby, although for our climate, Ruby ripens late enough that they won't ripen in some years. Fruit Skin: Reddish-orange Large fruit, and for whatever reason the birds seem to be leaving it alone.Think you might want to consider aronia, if you're looking for an easy care, very nutritious fruit.Consider wineberries for the shaded areas? And, after dinner Brie pipped up that she had some NIKITA'S GIFT persimmons to share. It was slower getting established. I picked a few fruits here in Seattle today. They dont even bother peaches or apples much. . Your best bet for self fruitful one variety is probably Meader or Szukis. Email: info@onegreenworld.com 432 Burnt Ridge Road. Click Here to Bulk Purchase. It's easy to tell when this persimmon is dead ripe as it falls off of the tree. I think I have enough persimmon trees now. It is ready to eat when soft and tender like a tomato. In fact, it's preferable to have only female trees so that the fruit is seedless. American Persimmon is hardy to minus 25F. His list includes Americans, Asians, and hybrids. Water regularly after planting, until tree is established. Nikita's Gift tastes more like Asian persimmon. Flow cytometer analysis showed that only four of the selected cultivars were from the tetraploid race: Ennis Seedless, Weeping, Sugar Bear, and SFES; the remaining cultivars were from the hexaploid race. Please add it to your wishlist to be notified when it's available. Fruit ripens mid-October through mid-November. Strawberry Tree (1) Gift Certificates (1) Herbs (15) Alliums . They are truly delicious. So far this year they have already grown that much since being in my greenhouse for 3 weeks already. My persimmon tree, though young, is about 8 feet high. Ken W Wilson pollinator Posts: 1187 Location: Nevada, Mo 64772 Astringent fruits must be overly ripe to achieve sweetness and edibility. I do lose foliage so I am sure growth but as the tree gains size it effects them less. The Etsy Gift Guide. I could not get to that area to water this year, and the fruits are smaller than last year. I forgot to mention that my tree is on the north side of a privacy. So envious of you. Fall foliage is a gorgeous, vivid orange color. $0.00. @Bear_with_me how did you know yates persimmon is good varieties for Pacific Northwest before starting to plant it? 'Shogatsu' is similar to 'Hanogosho' in tree habit, however, more problems with fruit end splitting and leaf spots occur. I have one, but it hasn't fruited yet. Cummins Nursery - Fruit Trees, Scions, and Rootstocks for Apples, Pears, Cherries, Plums, Peaches, and Nectarines. They get damage in their first coulpe years, but overgrow it really fast. 1. Mine are seedless sometimes but usually have some small seeds. I've ordered Nikitas Gift, Edible Landscaping Nursery is great. Match Match any word Match all words Match phrase. I've had fruit in 3-4 years on potted persimmon, but also, I usually remove all flowers in earlier years and focus on building a good structure. They said Saijo was the only Asian Persimmon that ripens at their nursery in Morton WA. You might want to join Persimmonworld on facebook, if anyone has grown an Asian Persimmon tree in a pot its someone in that group. I certainly don't want a 40' American variety growing in the yard. There are many varieties that will survive Z5 but possibly not ripen there if the season is too short. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon #30887 Questions? The next one was slightly softer and only slightly astringent, still crunchy, and sweeter and more juicy. Im wondering if anyone has potted persimmons in zone 5? Hexaploid (60-chromosome) varieties require a pollinator. Thank you for your nice comments. JB have gone after her cherry leaves, but not much on her A. pears at all. Meader is probably the most brittle of all the varieties, so it is a risk to grow it. Waste of money, So far so good. My only wish is that they had more to choose from as we would love to order from them again. Best with Chocolate for pollination. Sign up for exclusive offers, plant puns, original stories, and more. It didn't dry out, so I was puzzled as I've planted a number of persimmons and none of the others ever did that. They are also quite a ways from ripening. If you grew those in Seattle area, you are the pawpaw king! It is a lovely ornamental tree with drooping glossy green leaves and branches that give it a flowing, rather tropical look. Prok can grow up to 40-50ft. A great quality fruit that ripens late season, reaches roughly 12-15 tall & is self-fertile. Try this link. It is a little extra care but the final product is all worth it (Kaki in zone 5). This astringent variety is considered the largest and best cooking quality persimmon. Apparently they dont mind Neem. At maturity, it can reach a height between 10-12 feet. It is self fertile. FREE shipping. It is about 10 feet tall and the max height is about 12ft. Other persimmon trees, that Ive purchased in pots with established root systems, have been successful but take time to adjust. Only 5 years old in ground. We are not sure if these are Yates or Prok. NG pic taken a minute ago. Persimmon (NIkita's Gift) Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 34.99; Persimmon Tree (Early Fuyu) . Fuyu Asian Persimmon (68) $69.99 Hachiya Asian Persimmon (8) $69.99 Ichi-Ki-Kei-Jiro Asian Persimmon (144) $73.99 Jiro Asian Persimmon (15) Starting at $73.99 Maekawa Jiro Asian Persimmon (13) $69.99 Prok American Persimmon (42) $73.99 Saijo Asian Persimmon (15) Starting . The tree is two years old (from bare root) but I moved it to this spot this April so it has a set back. But pretty care free. An Asian variety that is deep orange in coloring and slightly elongated and rounded in shape. Bold red leaf color in the fall is an added bonus. Only 3/5 bare root persimmons Ive planted, be it in large pots for now, were successful. Since I am in Omaha, NE zone 5(-20f)but the low around -2, only very 10 yrs it drops to -20f. Ripens about the same time as Chocolate & about three weeks to one month earlier than Fuyu. Here 'tis again: The original name for Nikita's Gift is Nikitiskaya Bordovaya (NB), or which loosely translated, means burgundy of Nikita Gardens. I hope your theory is correct and it will produce fruit next year, being so tall and all:). Nikitas Gift Persimmon Tree Out of Stock This product is currently not in stock. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon is from the Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine, this unique hybrid of Asian and American Persimmon bears bountiful crops of sweet and flavorful, reddish-orange fruit followed by strikingly beautiful, orange-yellow fall foliage. Produces small to medium sized oblong fruit with bright red skin & sweet, spicy, firm brown flesh. Soldout. Maybe in year 4 had I not moved it. I like to pick them before they are sweet and mushy while the are still a little bitter. Sold in bundles of 10. Mine had to regrow all branches after the hard freeze in spring. I hate to say it, but I have had zero motivation to get out in the yard and do all the things that need doing. 'Nikita's Gift' is a hybrid of American and Asian varieties which is also cold tolerant but needs to be soft before eating. Persimmons only need pruning if limbs are crossing or in order to control the tree's size. They are drier than the Nakitas Gift. I dont post a lot but there arent a lot of people growing persimmons in the Pacific NW and I think the information might be helpful. Astringent fruits must be overly ripe to achieve sweetness and edibility. There can be discussions on benefits of each but if you are worried about your grafted tree being 40 foot because on Virginiana it will not and will still be a smaller tree. I have noticed they definitely like the taller trees/shrubs over shorter ones which may be the only reason the smaller persimmons seem to fare better (plus my protection with tulle). Then came the Japanese beetles that love this tree and a nearby TamKam. I like Meader Persimmon. Thank you for those Daniel. Their plants are in pots instead of bare. The taste was great but no texture. I dont know. We are a retail garden center servicing our local community & currently not able to ship our products. I picked the Nikita tonight and was very impressed. I suppose now is the time to apply it while the eggs are hatching? Yates already finished producing. Register. Part of the question has to be, do you want one tree, and do you know how to graft? Please contact us to inquire about this year's selection. Large, bright orange, Asian Persimmon features yellow, orange and scarlet fall color and their striking fruits remain on the tree long after leaf fall. If you can find Early Golden, Yates(Juhl), or Prok, they're a better choice. The Nikita fruit turns orange and then starts to soften, the orange gets a slight purple tinge around the stem end when it is perfect for eating. It went on for a month or more when my research lead me to check the tree during the night. SPRING SHIPPING: To mitigate the stress on our plants during transit, we will only be shipping Monday thru Wednesday. Latin Name:Diospyros virginiana x kaki I have seen this before. It also has spectacular fall foliage color. Before spraying with Neem there would be up to 20 Japanese beetles feeding on the NG which is enough to do some serious damage on a tree that size. The other has fruited for a few years now. Trust God, but always tether your camel to this tiny ad. My Saijo are similar size to Nikitas gift, and smaller than store bought Fuyu. We graft our bare root fruit trees on a variety of different root stocks. Among Americans, I've learned that tetraploid (90-chromosome) varieties (the vast majority of named varieties) are parthenocarpic. In the mountains of the Western Caucasus, Caucasian persimmon (Diospyros lotus L.) grows, 2n = 30, which is most likely an introduced species in old Circassian gardens. Is it something that will be of less concern as they get older and larger? Because pollen from native trees could result in seedless fruit formation of poor quality when native seedlings are used as pollinizers in commercial production of American persimmon, ploidy level of seedlings needs to be considered. By sharing experiences, we all learn more. Not as sanguine on their prospect, given the humidity of the area, but thought would be worth a try.I have a Li jujube which is doing well, but think perhaps I should have gone with the Lang, as I understand that dries better? When fully ripe and soft, this second-generation hybrid persimmon is sweet and flavorful. . Now this plant is considered autochthonous in the subtropics of the Western Caucasus, although not long ago, 150 years ago, it was met by botanists within the boundaries of the Circassian gardens and auls, which have now become a forest. NIKITA'S GIFT. Quantity. Softening & astringency removal can be done by allowing fruits to ripen in a brown bag, on the counter top, freezing or drying the fruits. Does anyone have any experience with Nikita's Gift persimmon? Maybe that is because I dont fertilize or water it. American persimmons grow very well in my yard. Find yours at http://www.tytyga.com/product/Nikita%27s+Gift+Persimmon+Tree I ripped it out this spring finally. The rosseyanka and nikitas gift I planted in the ground but removed them before our cold spell. I also plan on building some shelters for these for the winter month to try and preserve as much wood as possible. Grafting American persimmons can be tricky , as they often lose limbs, and it is done at a much later date. Seattle Figs 702 subscribers fire crystal vs Nikita's gift soft persimmon fire crystal had a stringy texture Nikita gift tasted better of the two neither of these has flavor and texture. If I pick too early they are only slightly sweet and when I pick when Ripe they are very sweet. It seems more bothered by drought than my other varieties. One of the top plant introductions to date, Nikitas Gift is a Ukrainian cross of American persimmon and Asian persimmon created at Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine. It was a very hot dry summer, I did not water them at all. They seem to go from slightly soft and bitter to very soft over night. I read in some websites Saijo means the very best one but the Japanese-English translator on line says it means Talented Woman. I had to sit down and do a little homework before asking my follow-up questions. Persimmons are prized for their dark green, tropical-looking foliage, their yellow, orange, and scarlet fall color, and their striking, large, delicious, bright orange fruits, which, in the case of Asian Persimmon, adorn the tree until well after the leaves have fallen. Start typing a member's name above and it will auto-complete. It's a American x Asian hybrid. An Asian variety that is deep orange in coloring and slightly elongated and rounded in shape. Im 6b. In the same yard, Ichi Ki Kei Jiro (Asian) also produces lots of seedless fruit -- no seeds at all. Kelby, You have Nikita's Gift if not from me from some else right? But I know both from reading and personal experience that an all-female Prok (American) will produce seedless fruit -- and lots of it. persimmon onto native American persimmon root stock. Nikitas Gift hybrid persimmons -- how do you use them? Its much earlier this year. The buds on NG are smaller and tighter, Im hoping shes just a little slower at starting back up. Don't have one yet, but plan to get one in the food forest eventually. Well, does anyone else battle the Japanese and June beetles on these trees? More like an Asian persimmon (it is an AmericanXAsian hybrid), so 12 to 15 feet or so. Add nuts and they make good trail mix. Site and Soil:Persimmons like 1/2 day to full sun and well-drained soil I ate some and picked most out. In the 2nd week of February when the weather is a bit milder than I unwrapped it to avoid early budding and to avoid late frost damage. I am in a similar climate and they all are absolutely carefree and "organic" here. I planted a large NG persimmon early November of last year. And this tiny ad too! . Pollination Requirements: Self-fertile Your trees are so beautiful. Maybe because of your online information. It is an excellent choice for the deep South and South Texas. Onalaska, Washington 98570. We are now offering $15 flat rate shipping for all tree orders! Hmm, thanks Phil. Its the cherry that is their favorite in my yard. From the Ukraine, Nikita's Gift persimmon tree is a hybrid of Asian and American persimmons. Weve eaten persimmons already. BryantFranklin County, VAZone 7a. Did yours get freezing weather while ripening? They didnt survive a week. Non-astringent fruits can be eaten firm for a crisp texture. Tree will grow more than 15 feet. I was told that persimmon drops fruit for the first few years so I wont expect fruit until year 4 or 5. Monday Sunday: 10:00am-5:00pm, Office Hours: It did not like something about my soil or climate. Most of the Nikitas Gift and all of the Saijo fruits are still very firm. This page was generated at 08:56 AM. They were slightly purple. Monday Friday: 10:00am 4:00pm PST. Bearing Age:2-3 years after planting Hi Ram, i look forward to your review on Rojo brillante next year! Im very happy to hear this too. Nikita's Gift Persimmon. It's 3/4 Kaki I believe. It's gonna be hard to harvest from a 50 foot tree. Ripening Time:October They have left my persimmon (NG, too) alone. It's an astringent persimmon--tastier, sweeter, and juicier than most American persimmons. We've been sharing our passion for edible plants and organic gardening since 1994. Hopefully I can protect the trees long enough for them to grow large enough to endure the beetles without much care?? I also didnt care for the taste that much when I tried it last year. I protected this baby by wrapped it with a large tarp from home depot and stuffed it with leafs in November. Dont just do it. Also, I added Rosseyanka this year! Plants were clearly in a smaller container and recently transplanted to the larger one. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon is from the Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine, this unique hybrid of Asian and American Persimmon bears bountiful crops of sweet and flavorful, reddish-orange fruit followed by strikingly beautiful, orange-yellow fall foliage. Just looking for some ideas and a little reassurance from folks with more experience with them. Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! The fruit of Giombo is large - much like the shape of the Hachiya, yet the Fruit is a smooth texture and very sweet much like the Saijo persimmon. The 'Hachiya' has been dried in Japan for markets of delicious dried persimmon fruit. We offer unique and rare fruit and nut trees, shrubs, and vines. It is definitely not true that you need a pollinator for American persimmons to fruit, only to produce seeds. One of them died. My Early Golden has been a sickly tree and has never even flowered despite being more than 13 years old. Lucky P. stated Early golden won taste test year in and year out at Claypool orchard but the fruit is medium size and smaller than Prok and Yates. The Saijo has more fruits. November 12, 2022. How do you like yours? Do they have to be mushy to be ripe? You could try to graft a female variety onto a male persimmon at say 10 feet or so, but it is rather experimental, as it may break off. How warm outside to plant fig cuttings directly in-ground. Persimmon Tree (Izu) $ 69.99 - $ 89.99; Persimmon Tree (Saijo) Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 29.99 - $ 74.99; Persimmon Tree (Sweet Fuyu) $ 39.99 - $ 189.99; Product Category. Persimmon Trees - Nikita's Gift (Astringent) Customer Reviews L 09/07/2022 Lisa Hensleyss Terrible Plants were clearly in a smaller container and recently transplanted to the larger one. All times above are in ranch (not your local) time. I hope that doesnt offend anyone, and maybe soneone with experience in Japanese language and culture can clarify. Yield:50+ lbs. But once you get past the transplant hurdle, the persimmon tree is a fantastic addition to your yard and you can harvest your first crop . Mine could definitely use some new leaves. Non-astringent varieties seem to do better in North/Central Fla, while astringent varieties better in South Fla. Persimmon Comparsion & Informational Poster for Astringent and Non-Astringent types. Are they supposed to be? Maybe they are just stumbling across the NG because of its proximity to that tree. There were a few seeds that were very thin and probably sterile. This year 4 remain. Retail Garden Center: Nikita's gift is a large persimmons like a japanese Fuyu, actually it is a hybrid between a Fuyu and a native. I can tell you that with all the fruit I grow, some years are better than others. The American persimmon is the focus here. level up your garden game with the Garden Master Course. Fruit ripens late October - November. How large a pot are you having success with? 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