Thats right, so forget about all the creationistic crap about kosher genes and sibling incest and make friends with unholy preadamites, coadamites and wicked evolution (Gen. 2:4)! Genesis 1:3-31 gives us an overview of some important steps in the formation of earth and its atmosphere. So it couldnt harm the rest of the World (population). If Adam and Eve ate the fruit while others didnt then there would be immortal human beings and they would not have remained on this miserable sin filled planet but God would have taken them elsewhere. The Gulf has receded since then leaving Ur well inland. Adam was formed out of the literal dust from the ground and when he died he would return to that dust/ground, not to a womb. Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel we know. EVE WOULD HAVE DAUGHTERS FROM WHOM CAIN AND SETH MARRIED. 26 Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let THEM rule. Neolithic Revolution was a long process, extending over centuries. 4:1-2). It refers to physical life (Job 27:3; Ezekiel 37:4-9; Revelation 11:9-11). Their professions According to the Biblical text, Abel was a shepherd. Adam and Eve were the beginning of the Jewish people only. God created them to be a legacy He wanted children with His Heart and His thoughts, and His powers (eventually) But they failed the test. One thing that always puzzled me is how Cain got a wife? The speculation, however, is interesting and should be regarded as that. In other words, the unique nuptial blessing granted the first couple in the Garden of Eden did not end there but was also gifted to others. Any other human beings would have had to come from the sexual relation of Adam and Eve. It only gave the motions from an earth bound point of view. The KJV uses the word "keeper," but the Hebrew word ro'eh means shepherd. Zodiac Sign. You may want to look this The audience understood the cultural cues and were unconcerned about narrative contradictions and inconsistencies as they had an entirely different way of thinking than us moderns do. WHERE HE DWELT AFTER LEAVING GODS PRESENCE WAS NAMED AFTER HIM, THE LAND OF WANDERER. In the November/December 2013 issue of BAR, Mary Joan Winn Leith addresses these questions and explores the identity of the wife of Cain in Who Did Cain Marry?. This story was ancient before the Israelites even went into captivity. I cant get worked up over this question. If Adam was made originally with everything then must have a curved body similar to that of a woman. Remenber thatgod cursed cain by putting a mark on his face ,no one could kill him ,no one else ,had more people edens surroundings. Mary Joan Winn Leith suggests that while the Israelite storyteller knew that other men and women in Genesis existed outside of Eden, they did not matter to him or factor into his account. Kabil and Habil Palestine Kabil and Habil, or Cain and Abel, with their two sisters, were the first children born to Adam and Eve. At the close of this jubilee Cain was killed after him in the same year; for his house fell upon him and he died in the midst of his house, and he was killed by its stones; for with a stone he had killed Abel, and by a stone was he killed in righteous judgment. You bundled your belongings before being exiled. The preadamites have nothing to do with a gap theory. Why can we not accept and understand that our Jewish-Hebrew Creation Myths are no less sacred, nor more sacred, no less historical, nor more so, than the Creation Myths of Native American Indians or African Tribes. After that [when God put a mark on Cain], Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, to the east of Eden. Could this be possible? If, on the other hand, God had created the first couple (Adam and Eve) in this manner could he not have repeated his masterpiece? Who did Shem Ham and Japheth marry? Further at Tobit 1:4,11, 14:1 we see the historical inaccuracies. The preadamic rulership over the earth isnt agriculture like in Gen. 2.15 (arets adamah). For one reason, the author of the Genesis sought to trace the history of the ancestors of Israel; it is just that the Genesis stories were highlight on the lives of Adam and Eve as to the reference of the order and ancestors of Israel. THERE IS NO other conclusion one can come to. The mens shoulders and hips are equal in width while the ladies shoulders are more narrow than their hips and their bodies appear more curves. In the first statement you propose evolution which, like the last statement uses natural reproduction. 23 And Lamech said to his wives, "Adah and Zillah, listen to my voice. Where did Cain get his wife? Her prose and poetry has previously appeared in such publications asPurposeandCreation Illustrated, and her short plays were performed at Christmas by Sunday School students for several years. Neither the Bible nor the church has not taught that the earth was flat. DNA and genes can tell alot about living and dead organisms. Organized religion can change the orbit of the earth,sun and other planets. But Cain is bad; he does not love his brother. I for one do not take lightly mocking God. Was John the Baptist conceived via an immaculate conception? Chapter 4: 1 And in the third week in the second jubilee she gave birth to Cain, and in the fourth she gave birth to Abel, and in the fifth she gave birth to her daughter Awan. Facts before speculation. And Lamech murdering Cain? So, why would they not accept that Adam was originally created from dust? If they had no daughters, then humanity would have gone extinct. He had cursed everyone and all sources of food, now I suspect Adam took his privelege of cursing the people in the family she they ate food. After they disobeyed God he told eve you shall have great pain giving birth this tells me she had given birth before without the curse of pain since they lived so much longer I believe they married each other in some way, Its easy Cain married one of his sisters, just because they are not mentioned in the Bible doesnt mean they dont exist. The Persian Gulf did not exist, because of lower sea levels. That being said, Noah and Adam can be, but do not have to be all. I have a Father and I came from him and I know that for sure and he has a name. This Bible History Daily feature was originally published in 2013. The name Nod was not necessarily used by Cain and his contemporaries, but may simply have been the name of the area as known to the original readers of ha Torah. People please STOP. Far too many wars have been fought in the name of religious intolerance. Brown's Sister Got Stabbed Multiple Times During A Fight Kane Brown has a sister called Heidi Swafford. Personal names dont appear until the second chapter. It was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl is common in pre-scientific societies. Over the years the estimates of the founding human population has been falling, from millions to just hundreds. Genesis 5:4 After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. Genesis tells us that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters besides Cain, Abel and Seth. You said preadamites, are you a gap-theorist? One can actually answer this question with just a little Bible knowledge. They ultimately had twins and triplets five kids in total. Anyway its much more complicated than this, but these are the basics as to what my studies have found, while studying under the influence of the Holy Spirit. The world of the Bible is knowable. Why did Cain then kill Abel? How, we might respond, could this be? It overturns our way of thinking. Like I said, read my earlier comments. o and if you are going to believe in God and the Bible you cannot go and find your white-out and remove the bits you dont like.., it is in there for a reason and it is all true, not just bits and peices. Given that the wife of Cain is only mentioned once in the Old Testament, she would not be counted among the famous women in Genesis. [13] It was not accordingly to as the events unfolds or do you think Lamech Cains son is older than Seth Adams third son? In some real, but mysterious, manner the bride was formed from the side of her husband. In Gen. 1 God tells man to rule over the animal life and in Gen. 2 God puts him in charge of naming animals (an act of dominion). 3 responses Gen. 3:20: Adam called his wifes name Eve, because she had to become the mother of everyone living. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_man_of_the_Hohlenstein_Stadel It literally says they had other sons and daughters, it literally says Cain married and had children. Genesis 1 says Yahweh created mankind, male and female. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and born Enoch. Not only possible, but highly propable, because only children were unusually in those days (5500 years b. C.). http://m.wol.jw.org/es/wol/dsync/r4/lp-s/r1/lp-e/1101989257#h=0-1&selpar=0. There is so much spiritual disrespect in Christianity. Cain hadnt had any sisters at the time of his marriage. Afterward Cain had intercourse with his wife [knew his wife, that is, intimately so, KJ, RS; lay with his wife, NE] and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. (Notice that Cain did not first meet his wife in the land to which he fled, as if she were from another family. Lilith, Case closed. There is evidence that Adam and eve lived out of Bible . Luluwa (also Aclima) according to some religious traditions was the oldest daughter of Adam and Eve, the twin sister of Cain and wife of Abel. HAS SHE NEVER READ THE hEBREW BIBLE? But if we look further we see through biblical evidence that Adam did not begat anymore sons or daughters until Seth. The gaps in the genealogies are already limited by elongating the life ages. You did not grab a ball on the way. John and Carol then had a daughter, Sidney, in the fall of 1966. Adam suggested that the question should be settled by each one bringing an offering. I cant apply the literal history of the first couple to my life, so why would it matter except to satisfy curiosity. I agree that we can learn from Genetic studies and radiometric dating. Like Adam, Eve and all other humans, Cains wife descends from the preadamites of the sixth day. I live to climb that mountain But, in verse 27 we find God created THE MAN and then it says He created HIM, male and female He created THEM. In Genesis 1-5 ha adam always refers to either the man (the individual named Adam) or the proper name Adam, in other words a single individual. Army 1SG, firefighter, consultant (CFPS) - retired from all. 2. He would of put it in the Holy Bible. Here we must rely on general revelation. There were what we call homosapiens, us, and other hominids, whos DNA has been found in homosapien. Aclima The Mahometan tradition of the death of Abel is this: Cain was born with a twin sister who was named Aclima, and Abel with a twin sister named Jumella. So Cain says to Abel, 'Let us go over into the . Scientists look everywhere but up or where they should. Adams remarkable last words. 3 When Seth heard these words from his father Adam, he went from him, shed 100,000 years ago, there were only preadamites. Could cain had married the offspring of a fallen angel??? Therefore, there is no reason to assume they the words refer to different humans in chapters one and two. I will also add that on day six, God created animals which are domesticated, wild animals and creeping animals. But not recently enough to support the Young Earth Theory which evidently was developed to support some visions reported by Seventh Day Adventist founder Ellen G. White and is not necessarily in line with how Genesis has been traditionally interpreted. For the non-believers, JESUS is the truth, if u do not believe that, u have work to do. DO NOT FOLLOW Free your mind. 100 September 7, 2018 at 8:56 AM Bara refers to bringing something new into existence. Besides, that verse ends with and all return to the dust. We dont return to the womb. That sums it up, God said it, He is in authority not any human who denies the truth of scripture by inturpteting scripture through the lens of their own philosophy. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. To me it seems Cains wife was actually Eve. the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. Because the first one failed his task. The answer of course is no. Moreover, the Hebrew grammar shows that all the living creatures represent categories, while Adam is one only of his kind, evidently because he is the only one to receive God breath (2:7). His wife was human. The twin has been a popular soap opera plot device and character for decades. There is no clear biblical evidence to support the view that Cain and Abel may have been twins. There are radar images of two massive river systems that met in the gulf area along with the Tigris and Euphrates. Notice that Abraham married his half sister with no condemnation from God, even though this was later forbidden. If the entire human race came from an original pair then this was unavoidable, according to Don Stewart. The Bible is constantly changed and reworded and updated one word at a time so that its not obviously noticeable. I study TNaKh with enthusiasm and wonder as I engage the text not with fear and limitation.In my opinion to look at the text like a fundamentalist does actually denigrates the Bible and makes this wonderful and complex source seem simply stupid. They had physical bodies like humans and can reproduce. (ref: Noahs period). He is very angry because God liked Abel better. Genesis 1 mentions the emergence of the mammals on the 6th day following the demise of the dinosaurs (who are none other than the dragons of the 5th day mentioned in Genesis 1:21). From just these verses you could argue that Adam and Eve only had one son, but we know that is not true. Metal Working 10,500 Yrs. of course youre absolutely right. Modern humans prior to 5,000 years ago are no different from those afterwards. Just some thoughts. Adam and Eve never existed. Mervyn. If I dont have a Father I am called otherwise..if dont know my Father name it more worst. The All-Access membership pass is the way to get to know the Bible through biblical archaeology. Maybe you would like to check out Reasons to Believe (Hugh Ross organization). Im definitely an advocate in the case for God. In His wisdom, there are some things a bit difficult to reconcile. Gen. 3:23 So the Lord God sent him from (min) the garden of Eden, to work the ground (adamah) that he had been taken (laqach) from (min). When God created Adam and Eve, they were perfect,, but, because of disobedience they lost perfection and died, (1 Timothy 2:13, 14), (Romans 5:12). The Bible tells us quite plainly that Adam was the first man made from the dust of the earth and Eve was the first woman made from Adams rib (not his penis). Im a follower of Christ and love God. Fountain of Lamneth, by Rush. Him and them are both plural, him is just a formal singular. Check out Who Was Adam? by Dr. Rana. At that time in human history when humans still had outstanding physical health and vitality, as indicated by the length of their lives, the likelihood of passing on defects as a result of marrying a close relative was not great. In the Hebrew, Man, Adam with no Hebrew article before the name, was created on the 6th day and was given dominion. I listed two research papers which pointed these things out. http://www.js.emory.edu/BLUMENTHAL/GenTradRashiRashbam.html. Today the city is called Warka. The girls got their father drunk and had sex with him (Genesis 19:33-35). Case in point: Do I live in your house? Neshamah does not mean spirit of knowledge. The breath of life refers to living and breathing. A couple of interesting points are: 1. in verse 5 it points out that the vegetation was watered by a mist no rain.that did not come until after the flood.a lucid canopy of water surrounded the earth on the outer edge of the atmosphere..that is where the water came from for the floodthe entire earth was tropical back then. Lastly, Jesus in Mark 10:6-8 combines the language of Genesis 1 and 2. 4. Why is anybody studying questions like this? Again we find the stark contrast between righteous and evil deeds, just as we have seen before in the contrast between light and darkness (John 3:19-21). My hats off to all of you for this informative reading. Im sorry, but I do not understand most of what you wrote. There were already humans on the earth. THEY ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS. Vote Up God brought all creatures to Adam to name, but none of them were a suitable helper for him, so God created the first woman. Gen. 4:16, 17: Cain went away from the face of Jehovah and took up residence in the land of Fugitiveness [or, Nod] to the east of Eden. We have no way of knowing if Cain was the first child. All of mankind is mortal and doomed to eternal death without the atoning blood of Christ. However, I agree that Genesis tells the story of Hebrew history rather than of all humans. Stop majoring on the minor. Indeed from medieval sources we find that Cain married his sister Calmana and Abel married another sister Delbora (as we are told by several sources very late: Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius, Golden Legend by Jacopo da Varazze, Historia Scholastica in Gen 4: 1 (PL 198, 1076) by Peter Comestor, Seder ha-Dorot) exactly as in the Egyptian myth the two brothers Osiris and Seth marry with his two sisters Isis and Nephthys. They had a rocky relationship that culminated in a heated quarrel, which ended with Cain The Torah 's description of their life is brief and cryptic murdering his younger brother. Cains blood line ever completely ended. Why Did Pharaoh Tell Joseph to Enjoy the 'Fat of the Land'? Isch & ischah are used for humans only, while zakar & neqebah are used for humans AND non-human animals. There, as exemple, agriculture began 10,000-12,000 years ago. The Bible gives limited details on the name and character of Cains wife. These verses are quite clear. All ancient tribes have their own origin or creation myths. Because, two people are more than one. The answer is in the Book of Jubilees the sixth most frequent manuscript discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. In Genesis 2 God puts Adam to work with plants. 49,000 Yrs. Take off your denominational glasses and reread this section of Genesis with eyes wide open instead of wide-shut. So it is faith we must go by. Jesus traced his lineage back to Ruth through the line of His adopted father, Joseph. TDH writes, The Bible was not meant to be taken literally. Sez who? In the biblical Book of Genesis, Cain and Abel are the first two sons of Adam and Eve. Somehow Moses knew what the land looked like at least 16,000 years before he was born. My book tells you all that, Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham. I think the author has overlooked the main context of the creation story and is simply trying to fit it into our understanding of a modern long geological age earth. The history (not stories) of Adam, Cain and other early characters is replicated THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND WERE KNOW LONG BEFORE THE CHRISTIAN MISIONARIES TAUGHT IN THOSE COUNTRIES. There isnt an only passage in the entire bible that calls Adam and Eve the first humans. Mary Joan Winn Leith first explores the traditional Jewish and Christian answers that contend that the wife of Cain was another daughter of Adam and Eve. She looked rather nonchalant & answered, obviously Cains wife came from the people God created in His image in Genesis 1. Cain married his sister. The Midrash tells us that Cain was born with a twin sister and Abel was born with two sisters. Rather, it was there that he had sexual relations with her to produce a son.) It isnt a criterium how long a false doctrine is believed in. Lots of animals on such a small ark, also it would be interesting to figure out where out where Eden was located. Were Adam and Eve the only couple who were created in the manner described in the Book of Genesis? I believe that we are very arrogant to say other hominids or dinosaurs did not exist. You can hold to old-earth creationism without evolution. In the beginning, however, there would not be the usual genetic defects arising from intermarriage because Adam and Eve were created perfect with a perfect gene pool, Slicksaid. Blue Letter Bible, "Where Did Cain Get His Wife?" 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Stop wasting your time and the time of others. Just smile a lot and get something to eat. Not a twin, a sibling. Cain married his own sister at nod because the bible was not mention woman name at that time it was not prohibiter to marry your sister. Report With that being said how do I know what goes on in your household unless you tell me what goes on there? What Hebrew lexicon did you find your word meanings in? PLEASE Read the.book of Moses in the pearl of great price. There is no problem with bringing in a sceptical argument but to throw such theologically liberal material at us as the main diet is not going to encourage me to remain with the site! I believe science and God can exists together. What happened to the other created couples in the garden after the original Adam and Eve, and are they recognizable characters or prophets in the bible? Their creation in Gods image in Gen. 1.27 refers to the typical human Features like intelligence. The gap theory is unnecessary, because the creation days are already long periods, so it dont need another one in Gen. 1.2. We need to stop taking the bible literally and look at it more metaphorically. All of them are not recorded. I feel very sorry for you, for you live in darkness and will likely do so until the day you die. I dont know if it has already been mentioned here, but Gen. 1:26/27 and 2:7 are two different events. All times are GMT-5. . Btw: The 6000 years often referred to as the time since creation, is in fact the age of Adams bloodline. The Bible was nly giving account od the incidence and not the geneology of Adams family. This land seems to have been where the Persian Gulf is now. Seven times seventy times. You dont know the scriptures nor do you know the power of God. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0131422 Did you read the quotes from Jesus (God in the flesh)? I have only seen one verse which uses even the word by itself in the context of knowledge. God is love..and God loves Cain so much (even after he murdered his brother) enough to provide him a wife. The Bible doesnt say he was, it just mentions him first. Why do people, even scholars, try to make them more than that? He said that Genesis 5:4 referred to Seths daughters. Domestication arose in the end of the 6. In the Flood Report, its pointed out, that Its about two individuals of each kind. The modern commentator, Isaiah Tishby, in his The Wisdom of the Zohar, vol. I wish thee to marry, from well that was a lot of side stepping for a very clear cut passage. Love your enemy, and Pray for those who have enmity towards you. Adam wished that each should marry the sister of the other; but Cain's sister was the handsomer of the two and had been born in paradise; while Abel and his sister had been begotten outside of the garden. 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